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Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Could Happen To Anyone

Over the last couple of weeks or so I've disclosed buying two new individual stocks for most of our large client accounts (in this context large means accounts where we believe using mostly individual stocks is suitable). A hopefully amusing thought occurred to me that actually relates to a potentially serious issue, certainly a frustrating issue.

Using individual stocks in a portfolio offers the chance for outperforming a relevant benchmark index with the trade off being that the single stock risk goes bad for turning out to be a bad choice. I've talked about this many times before of course in the context of a particular stock not working out over some reasonable period of time.

Occasionally something will go wrong immediately after purchasing a stock (fortunately not yet with the last two I purchased). You may need to click on the image to see what is going on there but yesterday WD 40 (WDFC) had a pretty good day during the regular trading session.

It chugged higher most of the day, there was relatively a lot of volume in the last hour of the day as the stock kept going up. Then after hours the company missed by what seems like a lot on earnings and by what seems like a little on revenue which lead to an 8% decline after hours.

I follow the stock only to the point of merely staying in touch. Over very long periods of time the stock generally has gone up but occasionally it gets clobbered. It seems like a fine company, we all have a can of the flagship product somewhere in our house and many of us have at least one other product as well. I can't quite get my head around why it gets hit so hard, again only occasionally, and so we've never owned it but it does have volume and a real market cap; $650 million.

Buying the stock may or may not work out but it is not absurdly reckless. It just so happens that people who bought in yesterday had it go badly immediately. Clearly this caught the market by surprise and while the report might alter the prospects for the next few months it probably does not change the prospects for the next five years.

Sometimes of course news can come out of nowhere and meaningfully change the prospects for years. Obviously people bought Union Carbide on December 2, 1984. Later that night a gas leak at the company's facility in Bhopal, India killed, by one count, 3787 people and lead to other related deaths. The stock immediately fell 30% in the face of the news, was never the same and was bought in what might be called a take-under by Dow Chemical (DOW) in 2001.

That is not something that can be factored into a forward looking analysis of a stock other than anything can happen so I'll only buy 4%. More realistically someone who bought Union Carbide on December 2, 1984 or WDFC yesterday was just unlucky and that can happen to anyone. If you have a 40 or 50 year investing career using individual stocks it will probably happen two or three times. To the extent this sort of blowup cannot be reasonably predicted it speaks for avoiding big bets which is of course something I have been preaching here for years.

7 comments:

reiredinprescott said...

Roger,
a bit off topic but the Prescott Daily Courier had an article (page 10A) this morning about your rescue dog "Pips" whom you've written about. I would encourage people to read the short article and vote for Pips so that United Animal Friends can win $5000 to continue their good work. Kudos again to your wife and you.

Roger Nusbaum said...

thanks Retired...,

One of my friends on the FD emailed about the article (Joellyn forgot to mention).

Funny story about our transporting him up to WA. We got drugs from our Vet to keep him relatively calm for the flight. We started giving him the medicine very early that day, took him on a decent walk before the airport and obviously spent the day traveling with him.

Toward the end of the journey I realized that I had bonded with the drugged up Pips. The next morning the drugs had worn off and all he wanted from me was that I throw it.

Chukar said...

Roger,
I truly enjoy your blog and read it faithfully over a cup of coffee. Like many, I read a lot of things and have attempted to shape a methodology that works for me. Unfortunately, I am hopelessly optimistic. When I think about a stock trader who over time may get hit with a 30% drop 3-4 times over a long period due to an unforeseen situations, I like to think that same person, would have been the benefactor of hitting some stock picks out of the park over the same period resulting in a balance. Is this too optimistic?

Roger Nusbaum said...

Chukar,

I do not think that is overly optimistic. I would expect the typical, average stock investor would have more home runs than overnight, immediate blowups.

The point is that this can happen and is realistically out of your control (WebMD today as another example) and if you can intellectualize that this then it won't be such an emotional experience just a moderately frustrating one should it every happen to you.

Anonymous said...

Roger,
lately you have spoken about div yield and Latin america. One stock that should benefit is Tx. Meaning I have tx as reaching a low point in a cycle. The yield is over 3% with a upside potential. In addition it operates in Latin America and should benefit the economic upshing.
Best 2012,
Jeff from Milan, Italy

Roger Nusbaum said...

I haven't studied that one but wow, it was up a lot today.

Anonymous said...

I know your a dog lover. Don't know if you've seen this on the internets yet, but it's pretty odd (watch the video):

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/video-dog-rescued-gulf-mexico-had-just-survived-213513061.html

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