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Friday, August 05, 2011

The Big Picture for the Week of August 7, 2011

Note I was going to publish this Saturday morning but news of the downgrade (which I get to toward the end) came out while I was working on it. For all we know the news may change yet again.

I am writing this post early on Friday evening so the new may change by the time this publishes. Friday was a very strange day in the markets and in the news.

Obviously there were some big swings in terms of opening up big sort of whooshing down and then more up and down before closing flat but the huge number of SPX points that the index was moving in a matter of minutes or in some instances seconds made for a truly strange tape. I don't ever recall that type of minute by minute action where it appeared to be hopping four or five points in either direction throughout the day. Certainly not on a day that ended flat. Seeing strange tape activity on a day like the flash crash or the like is another matter.

The other bit of strangeness is whatever the hell is going on with S&P and the US' AAA rating. I can't vouching for the various news stories going around that S&P was going to issue a downgrade and then changed their mind but there were rumors in the market for most of the day on Friday that there would be a downgrade over the weekend (Friday night) then there were reports (I saw mostly on Twitter with news sources cited) that the White House applied pressure somehow (there were mistakes in their math? really?) on S&P and they backed off.

First, any criticisms against the ratings agencies are deserved and I doubt there is any restoration of their reputations possible but the ratings do matter on some level. Again, maybe they shouldn't but they do.

The feeling I get is that this was going to happen which, as raised in a tweet by Pedro da Costa from Reuters, makes you wonder how something like this could get leaked to the point of being widely disseminated? Shouldn't someone fry for this?

As far as the notion of S&P making an error, while I do not know their process I am shocked to hear that the various double checks in place (there are double checks aren't there?) did not catch the error much sooner even something unofficial like "hey Joe (guy in the next cubicle over), gotta second? Does this look right to you?"

The way this is being portrayed (last night anyway) is "ok, let's go with it!...wait, what do you mean you found an incorrect number in row 231 column BE?" While I'd like to think this is not how it went down it is what it feels like.

I believe it is obvious that if the details of the US' current situation were applied to any other country, that country would be downgraded without a lot of controversy. One point I've made repeatedly since the crisis started is that the US is in a unique situation by virtue of its role in the world economic order. The rest of the world has a vested interest in the US' welfare which ultimately will prevent the type of perpetual panic in the streets that some people have been calling for since 2007 if not earlier.

"No perpetual panic in the street" is not exactly a compelling investment thesis however. As I've been saying for years, this crisis will take a long time to work through, in some ways things are getting worse and in some other ways things never got better or perhaps more correctly were masked by QE and other desperate policy measures that have come and gone since.

As opposed to debating whether the US should or should or should not have an AAA rating or whether there will or will not be QE3 (or some other desperate measure) it makes sense to just reduce your exposure to these problems. Clearly a short term decline will be felt everywhere but in terms of where we are at the end of some reasonably long period of time, markets ex-the trouble spots will be much farther ahead, at least that is how we are positioning.

Well I was about to hit the publish button when I noticed my Twitter feed blew up news that S&P downgraded the US after all. I told my wife and she asked what this means. Generically it should put upward pressure on interest rates and downward pressure on the currency but again the US has a unique role in the world economy by virtue of our being the biggest customer for many countries, by so many countries having their currency pegged to ours for one reason or another and because many transactions conducted between other countries are done in US dollars (although the trend is for less and less of this).

I don't know what to expect from the bond market as rates seem obvious but if something were to ever confound the obvious this would be it. I would think this will also be disruptive for equities for a time before we go back to worrying about Europe and our economy.

Comparisons to Japan do not stand up in my opinion because Japan has a different saving dynamic and never played the same role that the US does in the world economy. Interesting is how Tim Geithner made it very clear that a downgrade was off the table. Dude? Why say anything unless he wants this to be his out?

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have not been this scared since October 2008. The goverments seem to be inept. I felt it was not as bad as I had been hearing but now I am real scared. I have a very high tolerence for mkt fluxuations. But but but,

So now we have a poor agreement from congress, a rating downgrade and no catalyst for improvement.
Roger I am in mutual funds have no way to move quickly so I see a very bad Monday coming my way.

Last comment, if the financials do not at lest stop goign down we will be in a poorer place than 2008. This is very scary.

Anonymous said...

Worry and hope are not a good strategy, you need to get out.

Anonymous said...

Did the market go down on inside rumor of this already? Not saying it will go up monday, but the drop may have occurred before the news

Anonymous said...

What we really need at the moment is for a POTUS that can look the citizens in the eye and say without equivication: "DEFICETS DON'T MATTER".

Anonymous said...

Downgrade of US credit worthiness is interesting; but considering the credibility of the down grader who totally missed the mortgage mess of a few years ago, it may not be that meaningful. Everyone has an opinion of the whether or not the US gov't is going to default. If you see a run of people cashing in their savings bonds and foreigners cashing in their US treasuries, look out. Otherwise, probably not that meaningful. FWIW, I do not intend to cash in my savings bonds.

More interesting, and perhaps affected by the downgrade, will be who is named to the super committee that will come up with an additional $1T of savings between now and Thanksgiving. If they are far-right Republicans and far-left Democrats, no deal will be reached and the default trigger will kick in. If they are people willing to deal/compromise who are more interested in governing than their particular ideology, maybe something positive will happen. I suspect Behner/Pelosi/Reid/McConnell will coordinate on their selections of members for the super committee to ensure that their side down not get snookered by the other.

JCarr

Anonymous said...

On Wednesday I piled a bundle of cash into Pimco Real Return (generally, TIPS) and their "Commodity Fund" (which includes a generous helping of TIPs as well), Needless to say, the commodity fund took a modest hit.

What supriised me was the shellacking investment grade preferred's took.

So much for gaming the market (and human nature).

If I want to feel really bad, I just re-set my investment real estate values.

Damn these idiot free spending pols - located in Washington D.C. and a state and town near me (and you).

Anonymous said...

Despite having my assets in US dollars, I agree with this downgrade. It suffices to travel to countries where people live within their means and have little access to credit to see the injustice in the global system. Americans are living beyond their means compared to their productivity. It doesn't make sense for the USA to have AAA credit rating anymore.

Anonymous said...

I'm adding to my position in TBT on Monday.

Anonymous said...

"As I've been saying for years, this crisis will take a long time to work through, IN SOME WAYS THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE & IN SOME WAYS THINGS NEVER GOT BETTER or perhaps more correctly were masked by QE and other desperate policy measures that have come and gone since."

Now doesn't this key paragraph tell it all!!! Last 2 1/2 years a fraud.

Anon 9:57.....There was never nor is it in the cards now to default. Misinformantion is an American disease. Look @ the schools (ATL), look at the Church, look at politicians, look at corporate executives & Wall Street....

Lie, cheat, and steal. I feel sorry about the examples we have in front of our kids...

Anonymous said...

"Last 2 1/2 years a fraud."

CORRECTION

"Last 2 1/2 DECADES a fraud"

Suresh said...

Good post, summing up the situation... finally Administration was acting like keystone cops :(

Anyway - the best way forward is to reduce risk and exposure and move to growth markets.

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