Of more interest to me was one of the comments from a reader who called himself Factation and his Seven Rules For Investing In Retirement--although the rules seemed broader than that.
1) Eliminate all debt. Debt is slavery. I've never thought of debt as slavery but obviously am on board with getting out from under. We paid off our mortgage on our Prescott cabin years ago and other than our brief foray into Hilo have been debt free for a while. No debt gives a very big margin for error in terms of dealing with the unexpected.2) Peace of mind fund. Social Security plus three years of cash or cash equivalency's to live on. Estimate your prospective requirements. I'm not sure how much cash one should keep. We have more than three years worth but our fixed expenses are very low. How much cash do you feel you need in order to ride out something difficult? Whatever your answer, that should be what you have or should be what you are working to accumulate.
3) Invest only in high quality, dividend producing stocks, and only sell if the investment fails to meet requirements. Do not trade. I view this one differently. If you believe in having a diversified portfolio then you would have stocks with varying types of attributes. Yes it may make sense to favor some particular part of the market but owning only one type of investment assumes more risk than I think most people would realize.
4) Only withdraw necessary minimum from tax deferred accounts. I can't argue with that but I would say that getting some help on the best way to pay yourself is a good idea.
5) Own the residence or residences you live in, debt free. From a numbers standpoint, paying off the mortgage with a lump sum was a bad idea but those waters have muddied in the last few years. I have always felt that this was really a sleep factor issue. We paid our place off when I was 38 (the original note was only $57,000) and it does make for peace of mind.
6) Live frugally, and you will have peace of mind and hopefully, good health. I am all for living below your means but good health requires vigorous exercise and while we're at it, elimination of soda. Living below your means could lower stress over money issues too which could also contribute to good health.
7) Do not be envious of any one, or anything else. This is not something I think about or write about so I don't really have anything to add here.
A bigger picture concept to tie all this together might be a quote from our friend Bill here in Walker that I have referenced here many times before; you can figure it out now or you can figure it out later but you'll be much happier if you can figure it out now.
Good stuff Factation, thank you.





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Nice post today, Roger. Thank you for the link.
I'm 100% on board with Factation, but I'd add that his approach to retirement investing feels very controlling. I'm retired, and while I view peace of mind as essential, it's not the end game. I believe that one should invest for peace of mind so that in retirement s/he can [fill in the blank.]
While you're not retired yet, you already do an exemplary job of living your life. You walk the walk. I hope Factation does as well.
dividend stocks are very appealing, but I must agree with Roger that a balanced portfolio will perform better.
3 years cash in a zirp environment is just something I am not doing - closer to 1 year
SEG
This seems to be a great plan for having a life of worry free mediocrity.That is to say there is a time and place for this but for young to middle aged readers they better be careful as this thinking can have long term negative aspects.
Consider: "conservatism is the enemy of great wealth".
Debt is like fire-dangerous but useful. Consider: you may own your house free and clear but you can still lose it to the taxman.
Debt can be and is a most useful tool when handled carefully-especially in the early years of ones life.Factation's notions are more valid for preservation of wealth rather than attainment of it. IMHO...
Good thoughts, thanks for posting these. I'd add having some gold in your portfolio is requisite for retirees. If the dollar crashes, how is a retiree going to get by? Not saying that's going to happen but, unfortunately, it's a possibility. In this case, a gold investment is insurance against catastrophe, nothing more. I suppose you could make gold part of the cash allocation, he mentions. Not much downside here and it could save your bacon.
debt for education IF not excessive and debt for a home IF not excessive are the only debt that makes sense for young people. Otherwise I agree to many people end up debt slaves.
I am in retirement and, due to the current ZIRP environment, have been moving more cash into risk assets. Somewhat concur with SEG's comment about keeping only 1 year of cash on hand and am scratching my head about Purewater's comment on keeping a portion of cash in gold (no downside?). As for myself, I have 1-2 year's worth of cash in a safe, buy low yielding, money market fund.
Wonder what others are doing with their cash/cash equivalents emergency funds?
Thanks in advance for any responses,
JCarr
Purewater. Thanks for the additional clarifications. I concur with your comment about gold as insurance and that the probability of gold going down significantly is low.
JCarr
Anything that Wikileaks could get, America's technologically sophisticated and well-heeled enemies could get. But that's not really the worry, is it? The worry is that the PUBLIC might find out some part of the truth that they must never be permitted to know.
Republicans put a fatwah out of Wikileaks, I wonder if he will be killed the same way the Danish Cartoonist was killed.
Should not the attorney general be arresting republicans and republican TV hosts for inciting murder?
Hi Roger,
How can i contact you about making and managing retirement/kids education portfolio.
Thanks
Manoj
Manoj,
http://ysfi.com/financial_index.php
thank you
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