Thursday, August 28, 2008
An Allocation To Ponder
I meant to get to this earlier in the week but the reader question posts and flying on Wednesday got in the way of it.
On Monday on European Closing Bell the guest investor was Juerg Zingg from Q Investments. Mr. Zingg did the interview from the stock exchange in Switzerland so I assume he is Swiss.
He lamented the short term focus people seem to be giving toward technicals and said that most markets have just broken the "last Fibonacci line" and he expects more downside pressure.
In that light his current allocation is 30% in traditional markets, 40% in alternative investments and 30% in real assets. The graphic on the screen indicated that he expects this mix (more specifically his application of this mix) to return 8-14%.
He does not like bonds currently allocating just 10% to bonds as part of the traditional markets portion. Real assets include 20% in commodities and the other 10% includes private equity and wine funds (not sure why these are real assets and not alternative but this is what the graphic said).
The 30% for traditional markets breaks down as US 35%, Asia 25%, Europe 25%, emerging markets 15%. Within equities he prefers materials, drillers and ag stocks. He is warming up to tech. I realize these number don't quite jibe with the bond number above--I am just going by the graphics used but that isn't really the interesting thing.
He has very little equity market exposure. He thinks world growth will be 3% this year and next, compared to about 5% last year which leads him to conclude that demand will be there for the groups mentioned above that he likes.
The sort of growth level implies an equity environment that is not horrible (even if it is not great) but still only 30% in traditional markets. I would read that as a comment on volatility expectations but that is just my read as the question wasn't asked.
I've written a lot of posts that try to explore and create awareness of alternative investments (assume a liberal definition) as I am convinced they can help create different types of effects within a diversified portfolio. Hearing how other people utilize these sorts of things makes for a better understanding for our own use but I would urge caution WRT to a number as big as 40% like Mr. Zingg uses.
While I cannot know his intention or exact opinion going that heavy could be thought of as giving up on the stock market. In my opinion global equity markets are simply enduring a cyclical decline (the US might be a little more serious but is not Japan). If global markets are simply in a cyclical downturn then they will start a new bull market and when that happens the move will be big and most alternative ideas would lag at that time.
Keep in mind that up a lot doesn't happen very often (just one year this decade) and while it is ok to lag those it would be bad to miss them. Market up 26% you up 20% would be a lag. Market up 26% you up 8% being too heavy in alternative assets would be a miss IMO.
On Monday on European Closing Bell the guest investor was Juerg Zingg from Q Investments. Mr. Zingg did the interview from the stock exchange in Switzerland so I assume he is Swiss.
He lamented the short term focus people seem to be giving toward technicals and said that most markets have just broken the "last Fibonacci line" and he expects more downside pressure.
In that light his current allocation is 30% in traditional markets, 40% in alternative investments and 30% in real assets. The graphic on the screen indicated that he expects this mix (more specifically his application of this mix) to return 8-14%.
He does not like bonds currently allocating just 10% to bonds as part of the traditional markets portion. Real assets include 20% in commodities and the other 10% includes private equity and wine funds (not sure why these are real assets and not alternative but this is what the graphic said).
The 30% for traditional markets breaks down as US 35%, Asia 25%, Europe 25%, emerging markets 15%. Within equities he prefers materials, drillers and ag stocks. He is warming up to tech. I realize these number don't quite jibe with the bond number above--I am just going by the graphics used but that isn't really the interesting thing.
He has very little equity market exposure. He thinks world growth will be 3% this year and next, compared to about 5% last year which leads him to conclude that demand will be there for the groups mentioned above that he likes.
The sort of growth level implies an equity environment that is not horrible (even if it is not great) but still only 30% in traditional markets. I would read that as a comment on volatility expectations but that is just my read as the question wasn't asked.
I've written a lot of posts that try to explore and create awareness of alternative investments (assume a liberal definition) as I am convinced they can help create different types of effects within a diversified portfolio. Hearing how other people utilize these sorts of things makes for a better understanding for our own use but I would urge caution WRT to a number as big as 40% like Mr. Zingg uses.
While I cannot know his intention or exact opinion going that heavy could be thought of as giving up on the stock market. In my opinion global equity markets are simply enduring a cyclical decline (the US might be a little more serious but is not Japan). If global markets are simply in a cyclical downturn then they will start a new bull market and when that happens the move will be big and most alternative ideas would lag at that time.
Keep in mind that up a lot doesn't happen very often (just one year this decade) and while it is ok to lag those it would be bad to miss them. Market up 26% you up 20% would be a lag. Market up 26% you up 8% being too heavy in alternative assets would be a miss IMO.
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Roger,
I wanted to make this comment and ask this question in reference to Apple and Steve Jobs. Why is this guy and the stock constantly being attacked. It seems to me that whenever the stock starts to make a run even in a tough market something is spun out there to knock it back. Likespeculation about SJ health. the mos recent event happened yesterday after the close with Bloomberg sending out his obit by mistake. give me a break, that was no mistake. I know is has burned many bridges, but they need to give this guy a break about his health. He has responded a number of times to their speculation most recently last month he called the reporter at home. These attacks seem to be coming at the time when a lot of positive things are coming out of the apple pipeline. Is it possible that certain traders are knocking the stock back for buying opportunities? Yes, I am a share holder, so I do have a bias.
Thanks,
BWJR
not sure what you are describing is the least bit unique (Warren Buffet's health RIMM's technology.
I may be naive but I do not believe a stock can be controlled for a meaningful amount of time (too many people required to keep a secret like if every MM trading in a four letter stock were colluding).
Pushing around a stock for a day or two could be a different thing entirely.
As soon as I read the term Fibonacci Numbers, I went to see my witch doctor for a cure. Next, the astrologer for a tune-up.
T
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