I put up a similar chart on December 13, which was about the last time the S&P 500 turned around at the line drawn in red here.I've been saying for a while now that I think a bear market has started. I've also been saying that if a bear has in fact started, the way this bear is starting is very typical.
The point of this post is about exploring a different concept than just stocks, bonds, cash for constructing a portfolio. Some people might say that in addition to stocks, bonds and cash that real estate (primarily REITs) and commodities should be included. What about private equity?
What probably makes sense for most people is some sort of a broad category that is perhaps labeled alternative or other (I'll take suggestions on a better name). This could take in the following;
Absolute return ideas (like a long/short fund)
Some strategy funds (like DBV or the Rydex Managed Futures both of which are personal holdings)
Infrastructure
Plane leasing
A Put Write fund (if one ever comes into existence)
One of the merger funds (this probably counts as absolute return but this is the type of thing that gets forgotten about)
Foreign currency (I include this in cash but some may think of it as "other")
All of these categories (if I have left any out please leave a comment) have both positives and drawbacks. There was just an article yesterday in the WSJ about long short funds that have done poorly this year in a market in which I would think they would shine.
Within each segment there are varying characteristics and the context I am going for here is finding a low correlation to US stocks, a little bit of yield and low volatility although that is not as important as the other two.
The title "10% Solution?" of this post is the idea of allocating 10% of a portfolio spread across several of the sub-groups listed above; maybe 2% each in five different categories, whatever. In looking at each of the seven listed they each have a couple of obvious risks but I would want to spread it out for fear of the risks, to steal a page from Nassim Nicholas Taleb, that are not obvious.
I think these segments all live in their own world relative to the others. If you put 2% in a plane leasing company and something unforeseen happens it is likely that the other segments would be untouched. A good example from the last few months might be some of the shipping stocks. Picking a relatively undramatic name, Diana Shipping is down 26% from its high while the market is only down 6% or so from its high. So 2% in DSX bought at the worst time possible, in moderation, is far from a death blow.
The big macro here is that if the chart above does portend a bear market of some sort, where can money go to give a chance of better weathering of a bear. Then, once the next bear is over does it makes sense to keep these types holdings, to perpetually own names with the attributes of low correlation and above market yields.
Don't take 10% as any kind of magic number either. I think a persuasive argument for 3% each allocated to five or six "others" could easily be made. The problem I can see, and this is always the way, is that one or two of them do very well and instead of a moderate allocation of 2-3% in one segment people go with 10-15%, it blows up and they have completely neutralized their bear market protection.
I write these sorts of posts often as I believe that the average 10% return from US markets may be harder to come by in the next few years. If US equities can only average 5% then you either need to own equities in foreign markets that can deliver 10%, or get that 5% with assets that are generally not as risky as US equities or some combo of both. Obviously I vote for the combo.





27 comments:
Hey Roger. Would you add gold to your "other" category? Personally, I've not had much success with gold--the wide swings make me uncomfortable--but it seems prudent to take at least a small position with all the uncertainty ahead.
Thanks.
I have owned gold across the board for as long as i have been managing separate accounts. if volatility in gold is an obstacle for you I am not sure what to say to help you overcome it but i agree with your conclusion. I only own it at a 2-3% weight for clients in the hope that it would be one of a few things that zig when US stocks zag.
As far as in the "other" category. I'm not sure it matters as much as owning a little but putting it in "other" is probably an easier path for a lot of folks.
Can individual stocks with a positive black swan potential be considered an alternative asset class (10% of assets)?
CA
Hi Roger. Really appreciate your comments, esp. w/regard to portfolio/asset allocation. My comment is how to reconcile your 'proposal' with that of, say, David Swenson. He would allocate a much larger portion to the various categories, with say 20% to Absolute Return stuff, and another 20% to Real Assets (DBA and PCL, which I love as diversifiers), etc.
Your approach is a much smaller number of 10% across both these categories, at least as I read your note this AM.
Would love to hear your comments on this, as I use Swenson's model as a jumping off point for my own and client portfolios.
Thanks, and happy new year.
Jim
i am no Black Swan expert so I would ask can a stock be isolated as having black swan potential?
in general i would say a stock (forget black swan for now) could deliver low correlation zig versus zag potential but it might be tough to count on.
defense stocks after 9/11 could be an example
Jim,
my plan for this weeks video is to expand on this strategically which I think I will address your question.
If not leave a comment over the weekend. thanks
I like using Third Avenue Value OEF as a surrogate for the "Private Equity" portion.
Although, it might be risky to buy right now with its Financial and Real Estate holdongs, long term Marty Whitman always finds something to buy in a bear market.
I thought of gold as well. For someone who is uncomfortable with the volatility of gold, you might consider a mutual fund like Permanent Portfolio that includes Swiss government bonds, growth stock, along with gold positions. PP has a good long term record and held up well during the 2000-2002 bear market. High ER though.
OG, how's the correlation there?
Not questioning his track record obviously but does the fund have a high correlation?
Could the community put together a list of stocks with low correlation, though I'm ok if there is low yield too? For example, toll road stocks, plane leasing stocks etc.
FWIW...If others works on this I will and I'll try to track a list.
jasper
Roger...in a bear market...even if the groups that you have identified have a low correlation they still could go down, just less so.(Asking as well as suggesting) If so, would not cash be a better and easier allocation? jasper
I'll start the list. Some stocks, some OEF's.
MIC
SEB
RYN
PCL
DBA
(all mentioned by Roger 'cept maybe SEB).
NARFX-long-short
MERFX-mergers
GABCX-mergers
LCORX-long-short
That's a start. Very interesting topic, and let's keep the ideas flowing!
Jim
This might interest you. Lawsuits as an asset class. No ETF yet though.
http://tinyurl.com/3dzfhr
VIX is my favorite portfolio diversifier/return enhancer
http://www.cboe.com/micro/vix/Bibliography.aspx
Too bad there's no VIX ETF
Jasper, yes cash would be best in a run of the mill bear (not in a very inflationary time) but precise timing of a bear is not the type of all in (or out) bet I ever want to make.
I think a top is in now from Oct, but I am not willing to bet all of my clients' money on that, not even close.
So a matter of preference/philosophy.
I've heard of SEB but do not know it.
I saw the headline "Lawsuits..." but never clicked on it thank you for leaving it.
"But if the credit insurers turn out to have had inadequate reserves, what are we to make of the credit default swap market? Mr. Seides calls it “an insurance market with no loss reserves,” and points out that $45 trillion in such swaps are now outstanding. That is, he notes, almost five times the United States national debt.
Many of those swaps cancel each other out — or will if everyone meets their obligations. The big banks say they run balanced books, in which they sell insurance to one customer and buy insurance on the same borrower from another customer. But if some customers cannot pay what they owe, this could be another shock for bank investors. As it is, financial stocks have underperformed other stocks by record amounts this year."
Above quoted from NYT
So what would happen if we had a few percent loss of the 45 trillion?
throughout history there have been a lot big threats that create more worry than actual damage.
i've been out in front of this very generally in that when the curve inverted i said it would cause problems like a recession or bear market.
all along I have felt, and been saying that i thought this would result in nothing worse than normal. i still believe that even if the numbers being tossed around seem scary.
Helena, thanks for PP. I'll look into it.
anon 7:11
From ipathetn.com
hope the table pastes ok
fig
ure 1 Index Correlations
Correlation
Coefficient
S&P GSCI™
Total
return
index
D
J–AIG Commodity
Index Total Returnsm
S&P GSCI™ crudE oil
total Return Index
S&P GSCI™ Total
Return Index
1.00
0.89
0.86
DJ–AIG Commodity Index Total ReturnSM
0.89
1.00
0.72
S&P 500® Index
0.00
0.09
–0.02
Lehman U.S. Aggregate
Index
0.05
0.02
0.01
MSCI EAFE Index
0.13
0.22
0.07
Sources: AIG, Standard & Poor’s, Lehman Brothers, MSCI, Bloomberg
(12/31/91–12/31/06), based on monthly returns.
Oh well...table above is hard data on why commodities have the rep for low correlation.
From ETFTRENDS per Roger:
(personally, interested in AG etns)/jasper
" Remember, these are debt obligations of Barclays, and you do not own the various commodities, reminds Roger Nusbaum for TheStreet.com. The new ETNs are:
* iPath Dow Jones AIG Agriculture Total Return Sub Index (JJA)
* iPath DJ AIG Copper Total Return Sub Index (JJC)
* iPath DJ AIG Grains Total Return Sub Index (JJG)
* iPath DJ AIG Energy Total Return Sub Index (JJE)
* iPath DJ AIG Industrial Metals total Return Sub Index (JJM)
* iPath DJ AIG Livestock Total Return Sub Index (COW)
* iPath DJ AIG Natural Gas Total Return Sub Index (GAZ)
* iPath DJ AIG Nickel Total Return Sub Index (JJN)
PZI...a quant micro cap etf may be worth keeping an eye on for low r with the market./jasper
lol, there is probably an austin powers one liner, allow myself to quote myself.
I think Adam said that first.
another name for this discussion that I found this afternoon. Let me stress I know next to nothing about it. I visited the site and that is about it.
Canfor Pulp Income Fund CFX-UN.TO in canada, CFPUF on the pinks. The parent company is CFP.TO in Canada and CFPZF on the pinks.
Diversification is supposed to buffer the unexpected. By diversifying as if a bear market is a 100% probability,putting the proverbial investment eggs in a bear basket may leave the investor open to some unexpected surprises.
I like to be aggressive. But I also know I am mortal.
It's interesting that many good value managers are stepping up to the plate at this time and are quite bullish. What is even more interesting is that their bullish calls have not been across uniform sectors. My $.02 is that for me I continue to invest long term with quality managers, while staying diversified, with the ability to add to my investments. No more than 6-7 funds, and let my eclectic managers make the call. This approach has worked well for me for 25 years, but at times it is as exciting as watching paint dry. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that I can't possibly be right all the time, but I can be right over time, and that should give me a return that gets me to my long term goals.
this year was tough, i only made 6% on my investments.
johna
I have to admit that my expectations for roger is higher than what the s/p did...not that that would be true for his port every year. Guestimate:16% not including fees
RYMFX AND PRPFX
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