Saturday, September 09, 2006
Five Years
There are a lot of media outlets marking the five year anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Barron's had an article by Michael Santoli that was a great read about the evolution of things, markets and otherwise, since 9/11.
The article specifically touched on whether fear is priced in differently today than before 9/11 because of the increased prices and interest in commodities, the explosive growth of the credit default swaps market, the popularity of hedge funds and he even ties in the real estate boom as being a by-product of investors looking for other assets to own, obviously low interest rates contributed to the housing boom as well.
Michael sort of addresses what strikes me as obvious, and something I have been thinking about for quite a while which is markets have become more efficient as investors are a little more respectful of bear markets for equities and that they no longer view trading stocks as a way to get rich quick.
One nugget from the article was that in April 2000 assets at Charles Schwab were $775 billion with 386,000 trades per day. Today Schwab as $1.3 trillion in assets but only 245,000 trades per day. Less people view trading stocks as a means to get rich quick (repeated from above purposely).
The portfolios I manage are structured to take in various types of assets with different correlations. There are now many more investors doing something similar. I personally know a lot more about foreign markets, commodities and currencies than I did ten years ago as the bubble was starting to ramp up, how about you?
We all know that the VIX index has been lower than normal, relative to its own history, for the last few years. Complacency is often cited as the reason and that could be why but perhaps a part of it is a greater understanding of risk and inter-market relationships by more participants. The growth in interest of derivatives speaks to a greater desire have some protection against terror or war or anything else.
Derivatives are a double edged sword and no doubt some fund or trading desk will blow itself up getting caught with too much of the wrong product on the wrong side of the market. In May I participated in an back and forth about derivatives in the WSJ Online with Michael Panzner. Michael felt/feels that that a major blow up, caused by too many derivatives is looming and inevitable, I do not. As I said someone will blow themselves up but the point of the debate with Michael is whether this poses a systemic threat.
Used correctly, and this obviously is the biggest variable, derivatives are a tool to manage risk. If the increase in derivatives is more about risk management than anything else, it is possible that there will be muted ups and downs in stocks like we have had for the last couple of years.
It's just a theory.
The article specifically touched on whether fear is priced in differently today than before 9/11 because of the increased prices and interest in commodities, the explosive growth of the credit default swaps market, the popularity of hedge funds and he even ties in the real estate boom as being a by-product of investors looking for other assets to own, obviously low interest rates contributed to the housing boom as well.
Michael sort of addresses what strikes me as obvious, and something I have been thinking about for quite a while which is markets have become more efficient as investors are a little more respectful of bear markets for equities and that they no longer view trading stocks as a way to get rich quick.
One nugget from the article was that in April 2000 assets at Charles Schwab were $775 billion with 386,000 trades per day. Today Schwab as $1.3 trillion in assets but only 245,000 trades per day. Less people view trading stocks as a means to get rich quick (repeated from above purposely).
The portfolios I manage are structured to take in various types of assets with different correlations. There are now many more investors doing something similar. I personally know a lot more about foreign markets, commodities and currencies than I did ten years ago as the bubble was starting to ramp up, how about you?
We all know that the VIX index has been lower than normal, relative to its own history, for the last few years. Complacency is often cited as the reason and that could be why but perhaps a part of it is a greater understanding of risk and inter-market relationships by more participants. The growth in interest of derivatives speaks to a greater desire have some protection against terror or war or anything else.
Derivatives are a double edged sword and no doubt some fund or trading desk will blow itself up getting caught with too much of the wrong product on the wrong side of the market. In May I participated in an back and forth about derivatives in the WSJ Online with Michael Panzner. Michael felt/feels that that a major blow up, caused by too many derivatives is looming and inevitable, I do not. As I said someone will blow themselves up but the point of the debate with Michael is whether this poses a systemic threat.
Used correctly, and this obviously is the biggest variable, derivatives are a tool to manage risk. If the increase in derivatives is more about risk management than anything else, it is possible that there will be muted ups and downs in stocks like we have had for the last couple of years.
It's just a theory.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)





3 comments:
Roger,
This has nothing to do with 911, but with how the world is right now what would you be advising a client who is semi-aggressive to have in cash at this point {% wise of his assets}?? Do you see any buying opportinites coming in the 4th quarter and in what area?? Appreciate concise reply.
Thanks!
Roger,
This may be a bit off topic but since many of us who read your comments daily are NOT professional money managers, could you give us a bit of info about your background (ie. are you a CFP?) and your client base. Is your average client still in the accumulation phase or a retiree? Do you specialize in any particular area of money/portfolio management. By that I mean you could have one extreme of aggressive, active management to build/accumulate wealth (with the inherent risks of larger losses) vs. perhaps the other extreme of asset protection and income generation.
My daily reading of your comments would suggest to me that you favor a relatively moderate "get rich slowly and steadily" approach but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Keep up the good, useful work,
Re mkt effeciency, your observation and selected comments from Baron's article resonates as dead on. Personally, I am very tuned into the steady growth approach and as I scan the internet for assistance, and as I talk to my rich golfing buddies there is more emphasis on this go steady than ever before..but maybe that's because it's what I'm looking for. ??? If I may speculate on trends. The 80's was about material acquisition. Feel good quick with antiques,cars, electronics etc. The 90's was about stocks becoming the new hot retail item. Early part of this decade, bigger homes and second homes. Now, hunker down with wealth protection...slow and steady investment strategies. A relatively new graduate degree is "financial engineering" and the curriculum is about monte carlo simulations and variations on modern portfolio management. These are the skills brokerages want for the reitrement accounts.(But, there are many paths to Rome.) Hussman's fund is going to grow. And, I speculate further that the supply of money in tax deferred accounts is exponentially higher than ever. Tax effeciency is irrelevant. Hedging and sector rotation is more appealing than ever. It's all about demographics. Boomers with money and even more money as they inherit and their own children are out of college.The risk premium for terrorism is another factor, too, that contributes to protection of the down side. Roger, you've said before that you feel being "close" to the market average..even being down 14% when the total mkt is down 21% is a good enough goal. I'ld like to think that your emphasis on hedging vis a vis currency, foreign equities, leveraged short etfs, and your obvious general openness to new low correlation assets is a shift toward a growing emphasis on protection relative to growth. I apologize for any misrepresenation of your guiding beliefs. You have been willing to keep in focus the importance of risk management and how to balance growth and preservation. You let us into the head of a real time money mgr. Pretty nice.
Post a Comment